Global Warming is Killing Us Slowly But Surely

Bold post this one, Something that really hits the mark though!

I wonder if the conference this weekend in sweden comes up with anything

I think the conference success will depend on what hat the players are wearing – lol.

It seems reasonably clear that the earth is in fact warming. After all, much of North America was covered by ice about 20,000+ years ago and the earth has been naturally warming since that time. Additionally, there are areas in Greenland that are now starting to be exposed that actually show evidence of farming on the same very land that previously was concealed by ice. Hence – we have been here before prior to industrialization and in relatively recent (human) history.

So, to your point, to debate whether the earth is warming or not is really not the point. The point is the question of whether or not the earth is being artificially warmed by human activities (to the point of no return). This is really MUCH MUCH less clear. In fact, this is highly questionable based on the warming models. The whole “green house gases” theory is very poorly understood and highly variable analysis. Just only 20 or 30 years ago, the people arguing warming now were actually warning about cooling back then. When further data showed problems with the model, the model was tweaked and not it shows warming. Not exactly clear science.

For the record – your EPA article reference says nothing really except that “we are generating things into the atmosphere” and “we see ice melting” and then by implication ‘in conclusion – humans are destroying the planet’.

To be clear, my argument does not prove the conclusion is false, only that the science does not even come close to proven that the argument is in fact correct. Anybody that states the models PROVE anything at all, don’t understand the models nor the science.

My problem with trying to address this “problem” with policies that will prove highly costly – money that can be used for provable REAL PROBLEMS that CAN BE SOLVED instead of this speculation on the theories, is what the problem is in my mind. Feel free to spend your money on whatever you want, but for my money and my vote, its my right not to spend my hard earned money on the folly of others.

BTW, as a follow-up to my previous comments, even on the EPA site itself , see the following page and about “State of Knowledge – What is Not Known” and you’ll get a flavor of the some of the facts about whether the current models really mean anything or not.

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/stateofknowledge.html

Hi Jeff,

Your point is well taken. Much of the science required to bring truth to the issues is certainly unrefined. I have a a science background and I remember 30 years ago being warned of the coming ice age – lol. However science has advanced enough to start measuring the changes and projecting effects. With that said, my concern remains that global warming is a concern for all of us and that we continue to self inflict the wounds.

History has told us over and over that those in power have a tendency to do or say anything to keep it. Hence my comment regarding the spin doctors and their attempts to discredit those that suggest global warming is occurring. It is not a new tactic, but regrettably still effective.

Thanks for your comment

Stuart

I ran across the following article today on some of the results of the Copenhagen conference. I thought you find it interesting.

What Happened at Copenhagen?

[...] warming has skyrocketed and has become an issue that the media desperately wants us to pay moreEffects of Global WarmingEPA reports on effects of greenhouse gases … Sometimes I wonder and get a little ticked off at [...]